born abt 1801 in Cheddleton.
married 27th October 1824 in Cheddleton.
born abt 1806.
Samuel and Hannah married in Cheddleton in 1824 they seem to have moved to near
Caverswall by 1830 and 1832, then they moved to live in or near Norton in the
Moors.
The 1851 census record records them at 39 Washerwall.
1841 Census Records. Dwelling: Bank Lane. | |||
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Name | Age | Occupation | Place of birth |
Samuel Dale | 40 | Ag Lab | Staffordshire |
Hanna Dale | 35 | 0 | Staffordshire |
Elizabeth Dale | 11 | 0 | Staffordshire |
Susanna Dale | 9 | 0 | Staffordshire |
Ephrim Dale | 7 | 0 | Staffordshire |
Samuel Dale | 5 | 0 | Staffordshire |
Hannah Dale | 3 | 0 | Staffordshire |
Joshua Dale | 1 | 0 | Staffordshire |
1851 Census Record : Dwelling 39 Washerwall. | |||
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Name | Age | Occupation | Place of birth |
Samuel Dale | 47 | Farmer 5 acres and Stone mason | Chedelton |
Hannah Dale | 46 | Wife employed at house | Norton |
Sushanna Dale | 0 | Servant at house | Caverswall |
Ephram Dale | 17 | Stone Quarry | Dithrue ? |
Hannah Dale | 15 | Scholar | Chedelton |
Joshua Dale | 11 | ? Quarry | Chedelton |
Emma Dale | 8 | Scholar | Norton |
Martha Dale | 4 | Scholar | Norton |
Ellen Dale | 2 | 0 | Stoke |
1861 Census Records : Dwelling Washerwall, Stoke on Trent. | ||||
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Name | Age | Relationship | Occupation | Birthplace |
Samuel Dale | 56 | Head | Builders Lab | South Low |
Hannah Dale | 55 | Wife | 0 | Norton |
Joshua Dale | 21 | Son | Coal Miner | Cheddleton |
Ellen Dale | 12 | Dau | 0 | Stoke |
Elizabeth Dale | 6 | Gr Dau | 0 | Caverswall |
1871 Census Records : Dwelling Washerwall, Stoke on Trent. | ||||
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Name | Age | Relationship | Occupation | Birthplace |
Samuel Dale | 66 | Head | Farm Lab | Stoke |
Hannah Dale | 65 | Wife | 0 | Stoke |
John Dale | born 8th Jan 1825 and christened 30th Jan 1825 in Cheddleton. |
Ann Dale. | born 1827. |
Elizabeth Dale. | born 1830. |
Mary Dale. | born 1831. |
Susannah Dale. | born 1832. |
Ephrim Dale. | born 1834. |
Samuel Dale. | born 1836. |
Hannah Dale | born 1838. |
Joshua Dale. | born 1840. |
born abt 1836 possibly in Caverswall in Staffordshire.
died 1859 in Stoke on trent.
married 1858 in Stoke St Peter's.
born 1839 in Longton.
It seems that Samuel was born around 1840 possibly in Caverswall. He married a girl named Elizabeth Bentley in 1858 and they had just the one child who they named Henry. It also happens that Samuel died in 1859 the year after Henry's birth leaving his wife Elizabeth a widow, and she moved back to live with her parents John and Jane Bentley.
born 1858 in Caverswall.
married at Christ Church Tunstall April 22nd 1882.
died 1906.
born 1861 in Tunstall.
Henry Dale was born in Caverswall in or around 1858 and married Mary Horne at Christ Church Tunstall on Saturday 22 April 1882. From this Marriage Certificate we can assume Henry’s father Samuel Dale and Mary’s Father James Horne. Samuel was a miner and James a Brick maker at this time. This is what is on the certificate but in Mary's case is probably untrue.
Surprisingly Henry Dale does not appear on the 1881 census records, this suggests he was out of the country / Where was he ?
It appears that there is a lot of confusion surrounding Henry.
Here is an attempt to explain the story, there is a certain amount of speculation as I will never know the full truth so :-
Henry appears to have been born around 1858 possibly in Caverswall. His father according to the marriage certificate was Samuel Dale and his mother was Elizabeth Bentley. Henry's father Samuel seems to have died the year after his son's birth 1859, leaving Elizabeth a widow. Elizabeth appears on the 1861 census records as a widow aged 22 living with her father's family John and Jane Bentley. She must have been taken in by them after her husbands death. In 1871 Henry seems to be using the surname Bentley, and appears on the 1871 census records living in Albert Street, Longton with his grandparents John and Jane Bentley and using the name Henry Bentley. On the 1881 census records he again turns up as Henry Bentley maybe he is using this name because he was brought up in the Bentley household, (we will probably never know). In 1882 Henry gets married to Mary Horne who in turn has a confusing background. By the time of his marriage he looks to have reverted back to his real surname, perhaps he never knew his real surname until he looked at his birth certificate. (again we will probably never know the real reason).
They lived for 13 years or so in Tunstall before moving to Longton. Henry appears on the 1901 Census Records where he is living with Mary and their ten children in Longton. They lived in Tunstall from approx 1882 until 1895 as the oldest child Mary was born in Tunstall and is aged 19 and Clara is aged six and was born in Longton. At the time of the 1901 census they are living at 43 Albert Street, Longton and Henry’s job is a Coal Miner - Cutter underground.
The address of Albert Street was the one in 1871 when he was living as Henry Bentley unfortunately the house number was not recorded in 1871, so we don't know if he returned to his Grandfather's house, or just a house in the same street.
On Clara’s marriage certificate Henry is stated as deceased she was married in 1917. He possibly died in 1906.
1861 Census records | ||||
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Name | Age | Relationship | Occupation | Place of birth |
John Bentley | 48 | Head | Banksman Coal miner | Caverswall |
Jane Bentley | 40 | Wife | 0 | Stoke on trent |
Thomas Bentley | 20 | Son | Coal miner | Hulme |
Charles Bentley | 19 | Son | Stoker Engine | Hulme |
Louis Bentley | 13 | Son | Scholar | Hulme |
Fredrick Bentley | 7 | Son | Scholar | Longton |
Arthur Bentley | 5 | Son | Scholar | Longton |
Herbert Bentley | 3 | Son | 0 | Longton |
Elizabeth Dale | 22 | Dau | 0 | Longton |
Henry Dale | 3 | Gr-son | 0 | Longton |
The 1871 census records has Henry Bentley living in Albert Street, Longton. With his Grandparents John and Jane Bentley.
The 1881 census records has Henry Bentley living at 81 Henry Street, Woolstanton. He is aged aged 24 and his occupation is Iron Miner, he is a lodger with the Baskayfield family.
1891 Census records : Dwelling Tunstall | ||||
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Name | Age | Relationship | Occupation | Place of birth |
Henry Dale | 33 | Head | 0 | 0 |
Mary Dale | 31 | Wife | 0 | Tunstall, Staffordshire |
Emily Dale | 2 | Daur | 0 | Tunstall, Staffordshire |
Samuel Dale | 4 | Son | 0 | Tunstall, Staffordshire |
Harriet Dale | 6 | Daur | 0 | Tunstall, Staffordshire |
Florence Dale | 7 | Daur | 0 | Tunstall, Staffordshire |
Mary Dale | 8 | Daur | 0 | Tunstall, Staffordshire |
Harriet Procter | 54 | Mother in law | 0 | Tunstall, Staffordshire |
William Procter | 48 | Father in law | 0 | Congleton, Cheshire |
1901 Census records Dwelling : 43 Albert Street Longton | ||||
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Name | Date Born | Age | Birthplace | Occupation |
Henry Dale | 1858 | 43 | Caverswall | Coal miner (Cutter below ground) |
Mary Dale | 1861 | 40 | Tunstall | 0 |
Mary Dale | 1882 | 19 | Tunstall | Potters Lathe Earth Treader |
Harriet Dale | 1885 | 16 | Tunstall | Potters Warehouse Girl |
Samuel Dale | 1887 | 14 | Tunstall | Potters Pressers Assistant |
Emily Dale | 1889 | 12 | Tunstall | 0 |
Florrie Dale | 1891 | 10 | Tunstall | 0 |
Harry Dale | 1893 | 8 | Tunstall | 0 |
Clara Dale | 1895 | 6 | Longton | 0 |
May Dale | 1897 | 4 | Longton | 0 |
Ada Dale | 1899 | 2 | Longton | 0 |
Harold Dale | 1901 | 3 months | Longton | 0 |
1911 Census Records Dwelling: 38 Queen St, Fenton, Staffordshire. | |||||
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Name | Relation | Age | Status | Occupation | Birthplace |
Mary Dale | Head | 50 | Widow | 0 | Tunstall, Staffordshire |
Samuel Dale | Son | 24 | Married | Coal Miner Loader | Tunstall, Staffordshire |
Emily Rowe | Daughter | 22 | Married | 0 | Tunstall, Staffordshire |
Florence Dale | Daughter | 20 | Single | Castor | Tunstall, Staffordshire |
Harry Dale | Son | 18 | Single | Coal Miner Loader | Tunstall, Staffordshire |
Clara Dale | Daughter | 16 | Single | Lathe Treader | Longton, Staffordshire |
May Dale | Daughter | 14 | 0 | Cup Handler | Longton, Staffordshire |
Ada Dale | Daughter | 12 | 0 | School | Longton, Staffordshire |
Harold Dale | Son | 10 | 0 | School | Longton, Staffordshire |
Alice Edna Dale | Daughter | 7 | 0 | School | Burslem, Staffordshire |
Thomas Rowe | Son in law | 31 | Married | Earthenware Dealer | Longton, Staffordshire |
Note: Thomas Rowe's occupation states own occupation at home.
Where is Samuel's wife living ? and who is she.
The census shows they have been married for one year and had two children and one child had died.
Samuel Dale who was my Grandmothers brother
joined the North Staffordshire regiment but very soon after deserted.
Samuel was noted as being a bit of a rogue and
while in hiding after the war had ended my Grandmother said that while AWOL he went into hiding in
Goldenhill at her house and hid knuckle dusters down the loo. Another story
she told was
that when in hiding from the military police he was concealing himself in a urinal in
Goldenhill and came out peeing on the redcaps. Another story is that
Sam when
AWOL went to the pub dressed in disguise as a woman.
(I wish I had known him) !!
There is now a fuller story to Samuels life and army career ?? on the link
below.
Link to Samuel Dale.